Last month we noted the ongoing construction / renovation at the old Soi 7 Bier Garten adjacent to the 7 Center Point on Soi 7. At that juncture, we were not sure whether the two areas were going to be in competition, or if they were owned by the same entity. We are advised that both areas are in fact the new, combined 7 Center Point Night Entertainment Area (same owner).
The expanded frontage of 7 Center Point taken from the old Bier Garten side, showing the new Beer Garden beer bar and the expanded Drop In Bar which spans both old and new areas.
7 CENTER POINT
At the time of our survey some bars had already opened - alongside bars still renovating. At the rear, general contractors were finishing up renovation of the overall building, both upstairs and downstairs. Needless to say, by this time next month several new bars will have opened, necessiting number of additions to our map.
The converted Bier Garten appears at the left in the above map in green & blue. For individual areas not yet occupied / currently being renovated, the allotment areas shown are tentative only, as many of the future bars will take two or more spaces. The stairway midway (small red arrow) goes up to the 'balcony' area and the old function room at the rear (the only portion of the old Bier Garten still remaining). The second stairway adjacent to the "Office" goes up to the new short-time / massage rooms. This map does not show either upstairs (2nd level) area.
The biggest surprise (but perhaps it shouldn't have been...) was - there are two separate upstairs areas, each accessed by their own staircase.. The first stairway (centrally located on the map) goes up to a large 'balcony' area, which looks down on the ground level. At the rear of this balcony is the original function room dating back many years, a part of the old Soi 7 Bier Garten. The seond stairway is located next to the 'Office' (see map), and leads up to what will be approximately 6 short-time rooms (or perhaps 'special massage rooms'), each with their own brand-new clear Perspex shower stall. We surmise the downstairs 'Office' will be 'managing' these upstairs rooms...
Below are a few 'preview' pix of bars moving into the new area... As there are bars relocating into the new area from the old, and as there are a number of new bars coming on line in both the new and old areas, this can, at best, be considered a "preliminary report". ...To be continued...
READER :Was delighted at how quickly this month's MH was published. In response to your "The Silom Rose Club is not currently known to us, nor is the Victory Hotel. We are assuming for the time being they were located on Silom Road. Readers? Should we come upon any further info, we will do a return visit."
... Victory Hotel, 322, Silom Road. The attached advert is from 1972.
MIDNITE HOUR:Many thanks for the input on the Victory. We Google-mapped 322 Silom Road and found it to be on the corner of Silom and Silom Soi 13. We drilled down to street view and confirmed the structure still stands (with some upgrades), however the hotel is no longer there. We checked opposite the site in hopes of finding at least a remnant of the Silom Rose Club, but the area is currently a new construction site. We also took notice that the room rates were published in baht and dollars, which at first glance appears to be a convenience for prospective visitors, but it also reminded us that during the R&R years of the 60's - 70's, Thailand was de factodual currency - one could pay in either currency, and get change in either.
... ... Incidentally. on a very short trip to Bangkok in the last week of July, I was rather amused by what is going-on on Patpong 2. The "gay end" isn't looking so gay anymore. There really does seem to be a bit of a tug-of-war or, maybe more correctly, a see-saw over there. That entire end was going to the dogs before the gay venues moved-in in 2019 - driving out places like the Star of Light - and then keeping the lights on during and after the pandemic, which, in turn, encouraged the likes of Delaney's and Mary Jane to open on that section of the soi - and now Tanoshi. That Patpong's smallest lady bar should have chosen to open smack in the centre of the boy bar zone is amusing. I can't imagine too many men being interested in sitting there while touts offer "Sexy Man Show!" Still, the chance to sit down with a bunch of friendly birds without your ears being assaulted by car alarm techno might be incentive enough. Let us see how they fair.MIDNITE HOUR: Your observations are much appreciated. The not-gay Tanoshi seems to be a part of the "Pink Panther bar/barbeer 'anchor' on the Suriwong end of Patpong II - along with the Old Other Office (which is really just an 'old-Bangkok-hands' bar - an anachronism dating back to the R&R years). I am surprised that Tanoshi is getting traction, but maybe I should not be. On a generally 'positive' note, we have the recent openings of the SOL (gay), and the Virgin (straight).
With the collapse of the Bua Luang "dynasty" (Black Pagoda, et al), I'm surmising that Patpong 2 will be going through a longer transition phase before it stabilizes. As it stands now, the non-gay venues are not doing well, while the gay bars are doing slightly better. It remains to be seen if the Soi's non-gay entertainment will 'bounce back' (or even survive) in the long run. I'll continue on as chronicler-at-a-distance.
Well, it finally happened... the Stumble Inn has taken over the next-door Big Dogs bar beer. They might want to brighten-up their neon, however, as the current dark blue is hardly visible. May they keep on keeping on...
The new Mimosa Bar has opened in the old Red Zone Bar digs. We guess it was inevitable - although found informally elsewhere, we now have a combination bar-cannabis shop (a 'Cannabis Bar?). By the way, they have our vote for "Best Halloween Decorations 2023", which included a life-sized skeleton. Welcome to the machine.
A new Venue closed once when we pass by is given the benefit of the doubt - as they are likely to reopen. A new Venue closed twice on consecutive surveys means "They Are Closed". Just a fact of life - the Panacea is closed. We wonder if it had anything to do with the phalanx of 'Guards' they had at the entrance? Just askin'...
(Sukhumvit Soi 11)
The Moon Bar & Bistro was closed when we passed by the other evening. We'll keep an ear to the ground, and if there is any change of status, we will advise... Located in Subsoi Havana Social.
As 7 Center Point is also our feature story this month, and as many of the Venues are currently in transition to other locations, we will not be including photo coverage of changes within the Area until next month (when things have settled). Follows are notes on ongoing reorganizations...
Big B's Bars - Big B's has taken over from the No Bra and the N'Joy at the front of the old compound.
69 Bar - Moved to the other side of the old compound.
We For You Too - Temporarily (?) closed.
Big B's Cozy - Now just "Cozy".
Although A Go-Go had made inroads into the BangkokNight Entertainment Scene in the mid-60's, it was by no means the 'mainstream'. Venues with live entertainment and hostesses were still "king". Not to be forgotten were a number of "Coffee Houses", which were more than just corner Starbucks, and often had music and other entertainment, some staying open 24-7, becoming freelancer hangouts.
The Oriental Hotel continued to be one of the more popular sources of Night Entertainment with their Bamboo Bar and the Riverside Supper Club only a few steps apart. At that time, they were the only hotel to boast a riverfront view.
The Delight Coffee House opened to a lot of fanfare in the Rachprasong Trade Center (near today's Big C). Most interesting is they were open 24 hours - something usually only allowed if a part of a hotel's F&B....
The Naturist A-Go-Go continued to draw crowds with their 'imported' entertainment, while A Go-Go dancing was, in those years, not their major crowd-bringer.January 1967
The Star Light, a popular New Road Night Entertainment Venue was as popular for its entertainment as it was it's hostess scene. Note: they hosted many foreign entertainers who were doing 'the circuit' in Bangkok at the time (see panel to the left).
We published this ad last month as a 'coming attraction'. For whatever else she was remembered, Jayne Mansfield had classical training in piano and violin. She sang in both English and German on film soundtracks, on stage and for her theatrical and nightclub performances. She released both record singles and albums. Most remember her as the not-so-dumb blonde in the film, The Girl Can't Help It. She would die in a car accident four months after performing in Bangkok.
The long-running Trolley changed management mid-stream in 1967, and began promoting their "San Francisco by the Bay" ambiance. They were a cocktail bar - restaurant, the later it got the more it became a bar. The Trolley and it's branches lasted through the '70's.
Clifford Stanton was a famous radio and film impersonator in the 40's and 50's. Remarkably, he was still in showbusiness, travelling the world in 1967.
Silom Road, January 1967
What came before the Pink Panther in Patpong 2'sPlaza Hotel? Dulce's Den Bar & Cocktail Lounge, featuring jazz singerDulce Din. The Venue would last only a few months, before changing hands.
What came before Red Bull? (Krating Daeng)? Why, Gold Bull (Krating Thong), of course. This was Amarit Brewery's fledgling flight into the Thai beer market. (Our favorite of decades past was Amarit NB - alas, no more to be found...)
Melbourne, Australia is the first to report a brand-new form of graffiti vandalism. Local graffiti artists have started using a corrosive paint-on compound on glass surfaces throughout the city. The compound can be washed off for the most part, but not before it has etched into the glass surface, permanently marking it. While some of the new acid-etching graffiti has appeared on glass storefronts, most of the damage has been to Melbourne's approximately 700 glass-paneled tram stops. Yarra Trams, the operating company for the tram network, has undertaken a "beautification program" covering the damaged glass panels at the tram stops with a patterned, mostly clear plastic film, however, this is a very expensive and time-consuming process.
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